This week on Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I am learning from Michael Ray who is a solo dad to daughter Charlie. He is an author, speaker, coach and activist with endless analogies to make sense of the challenges dads are facing in being active parents. He describes all the barriers that dads face in stepping into fatherhood and concludes that the only way to change that dynamic would be to incentivize dads to take leave. Michael’s approach to parenting is to ask questions so that his daughter can find her answers within herself and he shares the joy he has experienced in becoming a connected, present dad.
S4 E75: How paying dads can create a win win for the family — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with author and activist dad Michael Ray
This week on Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I am learning from Nihal Mehta who is a dad to two boys and husband to change maker Reshma Saujani. He talks about giving each other time to focus and making time for exercise, especially with others. Using a stress monitoring app helps him keep burnout at bay. In particular, he advocates for dads creating friend groups so that they can feel appreciated more in their role and supported by other dads.
S4 E73: Showing appreciation to other dads and self monitoring stress — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with tech dad Nihal Mehta
This week on Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I am learning from Brian Anderson who is a community organizer and dad to two girls. He leads the organization Fathering Together and recently wrote a book of the same name. He often blogs about being present with his girls and putting work aside for those moments. Brian has had to balance his work mission with his desire to be a connected and available dad. He also talks about systems being the relationships between people and at the simplest level asking: did I make somebody’s day better today?
S4 E72: Servant leadership at home and at work — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with author and community leader dad Brian Anderson
This week on Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I am learning from Art Eddy who is a stay at home dad, ex radio host, and founder of The Art of Fatherhood. As an entrepreneur and lead parent he has to find time to take a break, often with his girls initiating that it’s time to relax. Art supports other Dads through his writing and communications, challenging how Dads are often left out in key conversations.
S4 E71: Communicating to share the load — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with podcast host and Dad Art Eddy
This week on Overcoming Working Mom Burnout I am learning from Dr. Charles Daniels who is a therapist and TED Women conference speaker who was moved to tears during his talk as he described the struggles fathers face. He leads the organization Fathers Uplift. His approach to supporting fathers is multi-level, trying to change social stereotypes, providing community, and helping fathers self parent. Their secret sauce is how they make fathers feel.
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This week on Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I am learning from Dr. Charles Clayton Daniels Jr., M.Div., L.I.C.S.W., L.C.S.W.-C. who is a therapist and TED…
This week on Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I am learning from Jeremy Smith who has two children and works full time. But following his experiences of taking paternity leave in the US, no less, he started speaking publicly about it and encourages other Dads to do the same. He shares some of the challenges of taking leave and the consequences it had at work. He also presents some tips about how to advocate for parental leave without becoming overwhelmed. Jeremy has hope that we have made progress on paternity leave and he sees innovative companies with younger leaders moving in further in this direction.
S4 E69: Making the business case to support parents and prevent burnout — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with parental leave advocate Jeremy Smith
This week on Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I am learning from Ian Dinwiddy who has two kids and is the founder of Inspiring Dads where he coaches Dads to play a role at home and work. Clear early articulation of values, goals and expectations for sharing the parenting load was part of Ian’s success. But also understanding the societal pressures that judge women as always responsible for the kids and in contrast giving men a pass when they make mistakes. And the expectation that even for primary caregiver men, if there is a women on the scene she is expected to step in and take the slack. I love the quote he shared: “Teach your daughter economic independence in the future so she can have a partner, not a master, and teach your son to do housework. So in the future he can have a partner, not a servant.”
S4 E68: Dads learning the skills to share the mental load to prevent mom burnout — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with Dad coach Ian Dinwiddy
This week on Overcoming Working Mom Burnout I am learning from Eric Zimmer who has two grown up sons. He is the host of The One You Feed podcast, he’s a behavior coach, spiritual leader and writer. Eric overcame addiction in his early years giving him a unique insight into work addition. But interestingly when he found a new purpose in life and started working less in his day job, he found less was more. Eric talks about aligning our choices with our values and questioning the value of climbing the corporate ladder.
S4 E67: Unpacking our addiction to work and owning our choices — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with podcaster and behavior coach Eric Zimmer
This week on Overcoming Working Mom Burnout I am learning from Jasper Schipperijn who is Dutch but lives in Denmark on a farm with his son who has Type 1 diabetes and his ex wife and ex mother in law. This non traditional approach to co-parenting has enabled all the family members to share the load leaving each of them more opportunity to thrive. Jasper leads international research on healthy communities and active playgrounds and shares many examples of policies that support caregiving. Jasper describes a team energy exercise that is such a great idea for learning what your team needs to be the most productive.
S4 E66: Creating family and work systems that bring your energy — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with co-parenting Dad and researcher Jasper Schipperijn
This week on Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I am learning from Jago Brown, Dad to three kids. At his company Lead5050, he is developing an accreditation process for companies to work toward gender equality. He also is a trustee at Equality Starts at Home, which is a charity set up to look at the difficulties inequality in the home has on many people and the knock on effects to their work life. At home, he and his wife use a system to help them support each other in household and childcare tasks. Jago has a deep understanding of how to create equality and reminds us that one of the biggest benefits of equality for men is improved mental health.
S4 E65: Changing systems at home and work to prevent burnout — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with equality expert Jago Brown
This week on Overcoming Working Mom Burnout I am learning from Dereck Reynolds, who has three children and works in the foster care system. He’s the founder of Hug a Dad Foundation supporting dads to play active roles in their children's lives and the community at large. Dereck talks about the importance of positive male role models for young Black men. He understands that we need individual change, family change, community change and legal change to support stronger families and safe communities.
S4 E64: Advocating for stronger families and healthy communities — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with community activist dad Dereck Reynalds
This week on Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I am learning from Jim Young, a burnout coach, author, comedian, and Dad of three. His new book Expansive Intimacy leverages the emotional intelligence we need in the workplace, allowing Dads to form deep connections and show up in more ways as a caring human as well as a competent CEO. Jim uses humor in his posts as well as his formal work with corporations, employing improv comedy as a way to elicit authentic and playful interactions in safe spaces. Jim wanted to be a nurturing Dad but could not find the time and support to do that in corporate America. His burnout journey led him to define success in a different way, by the depth of his connections.
S4 E63: Creating deep connections in burnout recovery — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with burnout coach, author and comedian Dad Jim Young
This week on Overcoming Working Mom Burnout I am learning from Dan Flanagan who is a branding expert and community organizer for Dads, running Dad La Soul. He shares his story of burnout and how his career change allowed him to become a more involved Dad and provide a supportive structure for other Dads. He challenges the stereotypes of Dads as incompetent caregivers. And shares how building a global community organization just starts by starting. Dad La Soul exists to orchestrate a revolution in the way that the stories and struggles of the 6 million dads in the UK are seen, heard, and supported.
S4 E62: Preventing burnout through stories and community — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with community organizer and Dad branding expert Dan Flanagan
In this week’s episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I am learning from Dad ally Aaron Hipp who has 3 adopted children and shares parenting as a team since both parents work full time. He is learning to set better boundaries around work, while also trying to recognize that his personality makes him enthusiastic about so many opportunities. He has learned from his wife to better communicate his needs, but he wishes that Dads could be accepted by other Moms as equally capable helpers in their kids’ lives when they do step up. He appreciates that the social norm in his workplace is supportive of parents, but he is aware that without policies codifying that support, a new leader could come in and destroy that culture.
S4 E61: Communicating your needs to prevent burnout — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with researcher and team parent Professor Aaron Hipp
In this week’s episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I am learning from Eric Arthrell who helped research and write the report The Design of Everyday Men, A New Lens for Gender Equality Progress when he was at Deloitte. This report highlights that the ‘always on always available’ culture leads to greater gender inequality and burnout. Eric now works from home and is the main caregiver for his two children. He talks about how Dads have to educate themselves to become more active participants in parenting and how supporting moms to take breaks from parenting is key.
This week on Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I was learning from Ruchika Tulshyan, author of Inclusion on Purpose and The Diversity Advantage. She is also the founder of Candour, a company that supports inclusion strategies in the workplace.
S3 E58: Being on the planning committee to prevent burnout — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with author and inclusion expert Ruchika Tulshyan
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In this week’s episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I am learning from Alison Butler, Chief Wellness Officer and creator of the program The Energy Answer. Certified in Mental Health First aid, Alison shares how to go beyond recognizing problems to actually practicing self care and setting boundaries. She talks about moving from saying to doing in organizations, starting by creating psychologically safe cultures, but also through role modeling by leaders at all levels.
S3 E57: Prioritizing, practicing and role modeling boundaries to prevent burnout — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with mental health expert Alison Butler
In this week’s episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I learned from Debbie Cohen and Kate Roeske Zummer who together wrote the book Humanity Works Better. It summarizes their approach to coaching companies towards more meaningful connection and how to develop skills to improve human interactions to prevent burnout.
S3 E56: Creating humanity in the workplace to prevention burnout — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with authors Debbie Cohen and Kate Roeske Zummer
On this week’s episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I learned from Mita Mallick, the co-host of the Brown Table Talk podcast. She writes thought provoking posts on LinkedIn. And is the Head of Inclusion at Carta. She draws upon her own experiences of not belonging as a child and later in the workplace. She didn’t always know how to speak out, but once she found her voice, she has been a dedicated advocate for change.
S3 E55: Asking yourself some simple questions to prevent burnout in others — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with Podcaster and Head of Inclusion Mita Mallick
On this week's episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I learned from Eve Rodsky, the author of Fair Play and Unicorn Space. Valuing your time and having your time valued by others is such an important part of burnout prevention, because when we give our time away for free we are left feeling depleted and unappreciated.
S3 E54: Valuing your time to prevent burnout — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with author and activist Eve Rodsky
This week on Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, Dr Sharon Grossman is a psychologist and coach. She hosts the podcast Decoding Burnout and is the author of The 7E Solutions to Burnout. Sharon walks us through the 12 stages of burnout from Freudenberger and North providing examples that we can spot in ourselves and our colleagues.
S3 E53: Matching burnout solutions to your stage of burnout — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with author, coach and psychologist Dr Sharon Grossman
On this week's episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I am learning from Karin Tischler, a job sharing expert and podcast host who helps companies understand the benefits of flexible workplace arrangements. More than location flexibility, employees want flexibility when they work. Karin shares the many advantages to having two brains in a single role, and how it opens up the talent pool to increase expertise and diversity at work.
S3 E52: Flexible work to prevent burnout — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with job sharing expert and podcast host Karin Tischler
On this week's episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I am learning from Christine Anastasia, a coach and mom of 3. She joined me shortly after the birth of her third child, which sounds crazy, but she had changed the script for #3. She was prioritizing herself as much as her child. She was focusing on her healing and realized that she was modeling this not only for her daughter but also for her mother who was a strong woman, but an over-giver. Christine was learning to set boundaries and break the cycle and in this she was finding more joy in mothering than ever before.
S3 E51: Taking time to heal and modeling self care to prevent burnout — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with coach Christine Anastasia
In this week's episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I learn from . Farah Harris, MA, LCPC, the author of the forthcoming book The Color of Emotional Intelligence. She helps companies create workplaces where employees want to stay and thrive.
S3 E50: Using emotional intelligence to prevent burnout — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with author and therapist Farah Harris
Katherine Goldstein is a journalist and social activist. Her podcast the Double Shift challenged the status quo of motherhood in America. In this episode, she shares the challenges of being in the newsroom as a mother, but also what she has learned from interviewing successful change advocates. One key message is: don’t do it alone.
S3 E49: Creating social change to prevent burnout — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with journalist Katherine Goldstein
In this week's episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I learn from Dr Amy Beacom and Sue Campbell who wrote the Parental Leave Playbook and provide support through the Center for Parental Leave Leadership. Maternity leave has such an important connection to burnout because it creates a trajectory for moms returning to work depending on how long and how much support they have had during leave. Moms can also be going into maternity leave with high levels of stress, or can be returning to stressful situations with very little support for that transition.
S3 E48: Supporting parental leave to reduce burnout risk — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with authors Dr Amy Beacom and Sue Campbell
In this week's episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout: Laura Knights is trained as a therapist, social worker, and in leadership development. She brings so much lived experience and wisdom to this episode. As the creator of the Black Woman Leading program and podcast she has seen the struggles of burnout and workplace trauma that Black women have faced. In her own work, she creates safe spaces for leaders to share their experiences and she teaches leaders at all levels of an organization how to better support their employees.
S3 E47: Developing psychological safety to prevent burnout — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with leadership expert and podcast host Laura Knights
This week's episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout features an in depth conversation with Jennifer Moss - a world renown burnout expert and the author of The Burnout Epidemic. Her book focuses on the role organizations play in burnout. Written during the pandemic, Jennifer presents case studies of how vulnerable and flexible leadership allowed companies to better adapt. Leaders have to role model healthy work habits but also if we recognize how much we have learned about resilience during the pandemic we can have the confidence to make workplaces of the future more sustainable.
S3 E46: There isn’t a silver bullet, so we need a flexible approach to workplace burnout — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with author Jennifer Moss
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This week's episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout wraps up season 2. I review the amazing lessons I have learned from my expert guests and provide a sneak preview of Season 3 guests, starting Sept 7 2022. In the meantime please catch up on any missed episodes or listen to podcasts where I have been a guest.
S2 E44: Season 2 Wrap up — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with host Dr Jacqueline Kerr
In this week's guest episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout I speak with Allison Venditti, advocate and HR expert. She supports working moms through her organization Moms at Work. She posts and speaks regularly about pay transparency and pay equity at work. Lack of reward is a cause of burnout so preventing pay inequality can prevent burnout.
S2 E43: Addressing the pay gap to prevent burnout — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with HR expert and moms at work advocate Allison Venditti
On this week's guest episode of Overcoming Working Mom burnout I speak with mompreneur and app developer Toyosi Babalola. She has created the Abulé app to support families with a village of service providers. One of the most important tools for reducing burnout is leveraging resources. The Abulé app makes this easy.
S2 E42: Creating a village of helpers to prevent burnout — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with app developer Toyosi Babalola
In this week's guest episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout I speak with Isabel Torres. She leads Mothers in Science and has been collecting data and providing solutions through science, stories, networking, toolkits and polices.
I wanted to speak with Isabel because as a mom in STEMM, which includes medicine, I wasn’t aware of the gender barriers and bias I faced. I assumed I was somehow failing.
But Isabel and others have shown that mothers are penalized in their scientific careers but fathers are not. This difference points to a systemic problem which Isabel is fighting to dismantle.
As healthcare is a central topic for women's rights, it is so important that we have women leaders in STEMM who can conduct the research and translate the data into policies that save women's lives.
S2 E40: Improving science and medicine by preventing burnout in STEMM moms — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with global scientific leader Dr Isabel Torres of Mothers in Science
This week's mini episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout follows up from my conversation last week with Allison Tsao, SPHR, an organization development specialist. We spoke about leading with more humanity in the workplace and a large part of that leadership is being a role model. Often we think about role models as aspirational, larger than life characters. But everyday role models, people like you, are an essential part of individual behavior change and culture change. In this episode I provide examples of behaviors that we can role model out loud to help change burnout culture. Role models are not just 'nice' to have, they are an essential part of behavior change success.
In this week's guest episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout, I speak with Allison Tsao, SPHR an organization development specialist. She is the founder of Humans Who Lead. Allison is based in Australia, and as you probably know, I love to hear international perspectives. We haven’t talked about 'change' burnout much on this podcast. So I appreciated Allison’s expertise on this topic.
And given the changes we are all going through at work and home, it is an important topic.
This week's mini episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout is based on my conversation with Dr Kate Murray last week. It focuses on what you can do personally when you are in an environment that doesn’t value your contributions and is leading to your burnout.
S2 E37: Taking back control to prevent burnout when the system is letting you down — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
Key Takeways The social and work expectations for working moms are no longer tenable Women don’t want to feel like a victim of an unfair system so they need to take back control Doing unpaid work does not further your career and can lead to burnout Stop organizing events at work if this
This week's guest episode of Overcoming Working Mom Burnout focuses on starting systems change from where you stand.
Dr Kate Murray is an associate professor at the Queensland University of Technology, Australia. She is a clinical psychologist who now focuses on systems change. Yet she brings that perspective from being a therapist, what can I do now from where I stand, what can I control, what small changes can I make that will make a difference? When many people are feeling overwhelmed by how much needs to change in society this focus is empowering.
S2 E36: How systems change to prevent burnout starts with asking what can I do from where I stand — Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
with equity and inclusion researcher Dr Kate Murray
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Job burnout is recognized by the World Health Organization, but there is also caregiver burnout, emotional burnout, and parental burnout that leads to ...