10/29/2026
What should schools actually prioritize to prevent and prepare for a school shooting? Kim Krawczyk was teaching math at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, on February 14, 2018. In Part 2, she explains where she believes schools are missing warning signs, why she thinks repetitive drills can condition students instead of preparing them, and why the incentives behind school reporting can work against student safety.
For school administrators, teachers, school resource officers, threat assessment team members, and public safety trainers, this conversation challenges some common assumptions. Kim and host Bill Godfrey discuss whether teachers should hear simulated gunfire in training, what it takes for behavioral threat assessment to work, and why a school reporting “zero incidents” should raise questions rather than confidence.
In this episode:
🔹 Gunfire in training: opt-in or not at all? Bill weighs the value of staff learning what gunfire sounds like against the fear it can cause and asks Kim about new devices that reproduce the sound. Kim argues for opt-in participation, warning that requiring it of brand-new teachers could leave them “pre-traumatized.”
🔹 Kim’s top priorities. At MSD, the cameras were working, but no one was watching them. She calls for a trained, dedicated campus monitor, fewer repetitive student drills, more authentic teacher training, and taking teacher reports about troubled students seriously.
🔹 Threat assessment and the “zero incidents” problem. Kim says behavioral threat assessment can work only with handpicked, well-trained people who don’t dismiss red flags as “blowing smoke.” She also describes how pressure to look like a perfect school can leave struggling students without help.
💬 𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗨𝗦𝗦𝗜𝗢𝗡 𝗤𝗨𝗘𝗦𝗧𝗜𝗢𝗡: Does your school or district’s reporting culture encourage staff to raise concerns, or to keep the numbers clean? Share your experience in the comments.
🎧 𝗪𝗔𝗧𝗖𝗛 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗙𝗨𝗟𝗟 𝗦𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗦 𝗢𝗡 𝗬𝗢𝗨𝗧𝗨𝗕𝗘:
Part 1 – What prepared a teacher for the MSD shooting: https://youtu.be/qT7nqXZLQPI
Part 2 - School drills, warning signs, and behavioral threat assessment: https://youtu.be/fPID4vPjT5A
Part 3 – Locking classroom doors, evacuation, and shared responsibility: Coming Tuesday 11/3
Part 4 – Reunification and why staying behind a locked door can be safer: Coming soon
🎓 Take the free one-hour SSAVEIM Foundations school safety course: https://ncier.org/ssaveim/foundations
📌 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦
00:00 – Introduction: Kim Krawczyk, MSD shooting survivor
00:26 – Live gunfire and gunfire simulators in school training
03:06 – Opt-in, opt-out, and the risk to new teachers
04:45 – What would you have done?: The reality inside the classroom
06:54 – If you could wave a magic wand: Kim’s top priorities
07:51 – The cameras were working, but no one was watching
09:39 – Fewer student drills, more authentic teacher training
10:07 – Listening to teachers about early warning signs
11:13 – Behavioral threat assessment teams: what “done right” means
14:22 – Apathy and sweeping concerns under the rug
16:10 – School reporting systems and the “zero incidents” problem
19:17 – Are we incentivizing the wrong things?
What should schools actually prioritize to prevent and prepare for ...